its a joke... wrote on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 AM:
Why would anyone think its a-ok to take away local jobs, and basically take the food out of the mouths of a lot of folks in support of environmentalist propaganda??? Because Al Gore wants to?
In the meantime foreign interests off our coast over pollute and pillage as much fish as they want with NO limitation! But thats ok right?
In this screwed up world its not right to starve out folks, because its not going to get any better out there.
Doc wrote on Oct 12, 2008 6:39 PM:
Reading these comments sounds a lot like the financial mess- the seemingly endless string of “fixes” have been uniformly negative.
The government panics, warning of immense danger if something is not done immediately!
Throw money at it and make more regulations, then Charleston will be boarded up just like
North Bend/Coos Bay soon will be.
Feels like Cannery Row all over.
Fishermans Mom wrote on Oct 10, 2008 4:33 PM:
LOL!!! Dave, Dave, Dave!! Come on dude, your river is running so wide and deep right now! So, you are against the fishermen for losing your job building lawnmowers, that is why you are so full of animosity towards them. I am sorry to tell you but they contribute just a very minute of the population that purchase lawnmowers! Regardless of all this, don't they have the right to make a living without all the regulations already in place by the government? Go to the boat basin and talk to the people and find out what is really going on and maybe you will get a better understanding and not be so angry!
fisherman wrote on Oct 10, 2008 12:59 PM:
we already have good regulations in place. Talk with the ODFW biologists, I do. Ling cod have gone from over fished status to recovered. The fish stocks in the proposed reserve areas are recovering with fishing occuring at the same time. Crabs are harvested in a sustainable way with no habitat destruction. Things are getting better we already hit rock bottom and are on the rebound. The marine reserves are not the last desparate hope for dying fish.
Dave wrote on Oct 9, 2008 7:18 PM:
While i see the reason that many of you are upset about the conditions that brought this crises on I dont understand why you dont see that things need to change..Years from now there may be fish and crabs that can still be harvested and earn a living for someone...But if it isnt regulated there may NEVER Never be fish for ANYONE.What is so hard to understand about that???I was employed by AMF lawn and garden for 28 years and lost my job because of all you fishermen buying lawn mowers made in Japan.So cry me a river all you poor souls
fisherman wrote on Oct 9, 2008 6:32 PM:
the fish are NOT gone. They ARE recovering with profitable fisheries still taking place. the regulations of the past that created the problem are long gone. The way we fish in the porposed reserves is clean and sustainable. I am a commercial fisherman and have seen ling cod stocks rebound because of good regulation. Crab is an excellent clean non destructive fishery. Salmon has problems but the problems are not going to be solved off the arago reef. I am very upset by this proposal,it solves nothing, serves no one.
Surferdude wrote on Oct 9, 2008 9:52 AM:
The fish are gone, over fished for years and they are all gone. We don't even worry about sharks any more while out surfing because the water is so polluted.
GAS wrote on Oct 8, 2008 5:29 PM:
Right on "Dave" and "Good for Coast".
commercial fishermans mom wrote on Oct 8, 2008 5:18 PM:
To JB, First you should go back to school and learn how to spell. Next, my son has NEVER gotten a DIME from the government! The only ones that benefit from that program are the salmon fishermen which he is not. The government does offer displaced fishermen schooling WHEN and IF there happens to be funding for it and that is few and far between. And I am very shocked that you were able to do that! Congratulations!
JB wrote on Oct 8, 2008 7:14 AM:
commercial fishermans mom...I did lose my job to government regulations in the telecommunications industry 11 years ago and you know what I did...hold on this is somewhat shocking...wait here it comes...I went BACK TO SCHOOL and re-educated myself in a differnt field. Here I am 11 years later with a stable, financially lucrative job. I support myself and my family. I never once asked for a handout from anyone including the government.
democrat wrote on Oct 7, 2008 5:08 PM:
Please don't blame this on the democrats, remember - its your republican president that short changed the salmon relief dollars. In any case, this isn't about party lines, this is about environmental groups that get so caught up with their own perspective, they don't see how they are affecting the big picture.
Leave the poor fisherman alone, haven't they taken enough hits lately? The sad thing is the fishing industry is willing to talk and work with these groups, and they just go and do their own thing anyways.
JB wrote on Oct 7, 2008 1:02 PM:
Amen, Dave...
fnord wrote on Oct 7, 2008 12:15 PM:
careful what you wish for, Dave. some of these displaced fishermen may take YOUR job, and then tell YOU to get over it and get a job.
commercial fishermans mom wrote on Oct 7, 2008 11:18 AM:
To Dave and JB: Commercial fishing IS a job, it has supported my son and his family for years, he started when he was 16 yrs. old. You see that is all he knows, he is 39 now. JB, all you can say is "cry me a river!" How would you feel if your job was yanked after 23 yrs? Fishing is dead because of the government and the greenies and if you don't see that you are the one that is hosed! And to Dave, what environmental group do you belong to? The ones that won't have a desk because they don't believe in cutting down trees? Let's put both your jobs on the line and see if you would still have the same opinion.
Dave wrote on Oct 7, 2008 8:15 AM:
This is the results of all the greed from the past...go get a job and let the fish recover
Fishman wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:55 AM:
I've got a great proposal. Kill all the unwanted unborn baby homo sapiens. Start guy/guy and girl/girl camps where you don't have to worry about overpopulation, because they can reproduce. Limit offspring of all heterosexual couples, making sure that those offspring are trained by the guy/guy-girl/girl philosopy. Then let the fish evolve into a newer democraptic etophian society. Go Fish!
Linda wrote on Oct 6, 2008 9:19 AM:
Enviromentalists are nothing but tree huggers. People need to get clue. I can't belive that if this is what you call working they need to be fired. How do they sleep at night knowing that someones kid is going hungry. And to the people that say it's Democrats. Wake up, this country's going down but sending millions to Iraq. Sorry but let me clue you in, Bush is a repubican.
Crabber wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:57 AM:
JB, never have I seen such ignorance and lack of anything human. You know nothing of what you write about. Stay out of it. You make yourself appear really stooooopid.
Disgust wrote on Oct 6, 2008 8:41 AM:
Anyone who thinks its a-ok to cutoff local fishing is nuts.
I suppose those same folks are ok with getting imported fish from China or somewhere else? Maybe they'll enjoy a little sprinkle of melamine on their fish? yum yum.
Support your local fishermen! Fresh is the best! Why should only foreign interest get to fish off our coast with no problems or limitations?
Enough is enough, stop pinching the little guy trying to survive!
concerned citizen wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:48 PM:
while a marine reserve does have it purpose, taking away prime fishing and crabbing areas would harm these families. are the eco groups going to compensate fro the financial damages done in the years to come to the industry ever how small?
JB wrote on Oct 5, 2008 2:33 PM:
Cry me a river...get a new job...fishing is dead and if you are too dimwitted to see that then you are hosed
CLIF wrote on Oct 4, 2008 7:41 PM:
And yet, there are people who are stil registered and voting democrat. Anybody who votes for Obama or Defazio has absolutely no right to bitch about the economy.
ononomous wrote on Oct 4, 2008 2:40 PM:
These sneaky environmental groups are going to be the death of the USA. They are killing our ways of making a living, especially in the northwestern part of our country.They just keep chipping away at it.
How do these do good no goods make their living.....they must have an income. What if it was taken away from them?
Ex Worker wrote on Oct 4, 2008 2:28 PM:
The environmentalist are killing our area, hope their happy as everyone goes broke and can't work anymore. What a bunch of freaks.
Who are they saving everything for?
And of course most of them never even live in the areas they are trying to save all over the world. Just gives them something to do for fun I guess.
Good for the coast wrote on Oct 4, 2008 12:14 PM:
You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see that this would be a good thing for these areas, they have been abused for many years and need time to recover.
richard wrote on Oct 4, 2008 10:50 AM:
i use to live in san diego and hunted and fished there untill they made it so dam bad with their fees and turned the little lakes- reservoirs into playgrounds i quit what i enjoyed,i then flew back to michigan and fished with family a nonresident license was cheaper than a resident was yearly.i bought a home here 20 yrs ago and now here comes all the cra--p ..this our ocean group is what it implies (their own ocean )and others like them,will by the grace of god allow you a small portion of it to fish or make a living..this is no longer a land of the free it's a land of the fees and the squeeky wheels getting their way... it's time to stand up in mass and protest--a few thousand fishermen at a meeting might make them get the picture....or you maybe could quit fishing and take up teaching how to swim with a 100# anchor (group rates)...
commercial fishermans mom wrote on Oct 4, 2008 10:50 AM:
I tell ya what we need to do, we need to find out what type of work, if any these environmental groups do and start taking their jobs away from them! This is crazy! These poor fishermen have been taking it up the behind for too long by the goverenment and now these yahoos have to stick their noses into the mix. They must all just sit around and think about who they are going to mess with next. You people know NOTHING about what you are doing, you know NOTHING about the lives you are about to ruin by doing this so STAY OUT of it and leave the fishing community alone!
Dan - NB wrote on Oct 4, 2008 7:24 AM:
Keep voting for Democrats and watch your freedom disappear. Coming from California I saw this happen exactly the same way as the Marxist democrat evironmentalisst wackos in Oregon are now attempting to sieze the property of he people of Oregon to suposedly "save" something from those evil humans.
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